The Twilight Mexican
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FFVII Remake: Intergrade Yuffie DLC Announced
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Theozilla
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To be fair in a franchise called “Final” Fantasy, the word should probably be expected to be taken to mean anything but it’s literal meaning.
"And so the hound weaves the final chapter in this tale of life"
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Makoeyes987
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Just want to clarify something important.
Emphasis on "this."
Like, Dirge of Cerberus was merely the final chapter of Vincent's dramatic, angst-filled, monster-specimen life where he got fucked over by his pseudo-ex-crush who NTR'd him with a giga-chad yet ugly mad scientist.
It wasn't the "end" of the overall FFVII world or story. It was a Vincent Gaiden and that was an arguably strange place to chronologically end the Compilation. But it wasn't meant to be THE end of FFVII entirely.
Emphasis on "this."
Like, Dirge of Cerberus was merely the final chapter of Vincent's dramatic, angst-filled, monster-specimen life where he got fucked over by his pseudo-ex-crush who NTR'd him with a giga-chad yet ugly mad scientist.
It wasn't the "end" of the overall FFVII world or story. It was a Vincent Gaiden and that was an arguably strange place to chronologically end the Compilation. But it wasn't meant to be THE end of FFVII entirely.
KindOfBlue
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The remake was being planned even back then right? I guess chronologically we can call DoC the end but even then, that only accounts for the OG. With Remake having a continuity deliberately diverging from the OG, we don’t know if post-Remake will just circle back to AC and DoC anyways or go in a different direction altogether.Just want to clarify something important.
Emphasis on "this."
Like, Dirge of Cerberus was merely the final chapter of Vincent's dramatic, angst-filled, monster-specimen life where he got fucked over by his pseudo-ex-crush who NTR'd him with a giga-chad yet ugly mad scientist.
It wasn't the "end" of the overall FFVII world or story. It was a Vincent Gaiden and that was an arguably strange place to chronologically end the Compilation. But it wasn't meant to be THE end of FFVII entirely.
Obsidian Fire
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Crisis Core was being made while DoC was being made... and Nomura says he came up with the idea for Remake while CC was being worked on. So more than likley... Remake was come up with while DoC was nearly finished.
This kinda fits with Genesis being introduced... We see him for the first time at the end of DoC, CC explains his backstory and motivations... and then... you'd kinda expect another game with him in it to take advantage of all that info. And it turns out there *was* a game in Nomura's head that just... never got made.
This kinda fits with Genesis being introduced... We see him for the first time at the end of DoC, CC explains his backstory and motivations... and then... you'd kinda expect another game with him in it to take advantage of all that info. And it turns out there *was* a game in Nomura's head that just... never got made.
KindOfBlue
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Each day, we get closer and closer to Genesis’ inevitable return...
Roundhouse
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'Even if the morrow is barren of promises
Nothing shall forestall my return
To become the dew that quenches the land
To spare the sands, the seas, the skies
I offer thee this silent sacrifice'
He better show up in Intergrade...
Remake Genesis!
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Nothing shall forestall my return
To become the dew that quenches the land
To spare the sands, the seas, the skies
I offer thee this silent sacrifice'
He better show up in Intergrade...
Remake Genesis!
Source:
The Twilight Mexican
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See, here's a great example of what I've been saying for years -- i.e. even if Gackt's likeness could no longer be used, it wouldn't be difficult to redesign Genesis's face into that of a similar-looking-but-distinct generic bishounen who is still recognizable as Genesis.'Even if the morrow is barren of promises
Nothing shall forestall my return
To become the dew that quenches the land
To spare the sands, the seas, the skies
I offer thee this silent sacrifice'
He better show up in Intergrade...
Remake Genesis!
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I've always believed it was possible we would see Genesis again, and at this point I'm genuinely confident we will, with or without Gackt's participation.
Makoeyes987
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This DLC episode taking place in Deepground really is literally... the most opportune and perfect moment to have his character reappear in FFVII lore again, so if they're gonna do it I can't think of any other moment that'll be the time.
So I guess we'll see
So I guess we'll see
Roundhouse
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5 days until the return of a hero.
KindOfBlue
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Does Genesis’ model in Crisis Core even still look like Gackt? I thought even by that point, they just gave him a generic Japanese pretty boy face.
As much as I dislike Genesis, the idea that he can’t come back because he’s modeled after Gackt never seemed like much of an obstacle to me, just...don’t make him look like Gackt then? Unless there’s some other details about licensing that I’m unaware of, I dunno.
God, Genesis is like a bratty theater kid pretending to be the kind of villain that Sephiroth actually is effortlessly. He’s basically like what I assumed Sephiroth would be before I got into FF7, and so I was pleasantly surprised to find Sephiroth to be a genuinely menacing villain while Genesis is just...meh.
As long as they don’t shoehorn him into the Nibelheim flashback, I say bring him on in. Lemme beat the LOVELESS outta him.
Roundhouse
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The mistake is in thinking of Genesis as a villain. He's more of a tragic antagonist (since reformed) with a flair for theatricality. Unlike Sephiroth he has an appreciation for fine art and a desire to become a true hero. He will be very important to defeating Roth in the remake...his heroic arc has just begun.
Makoeyes987
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No, he's definitely a villain. He may be a more reformed and/or planet-conscious villain, but until otherwise is conclusively shown, he is neutral at best.
Just because he wants to help "protect the Planet" doesn't mean he's friendly or benevolent. His goals are ambiguous; he may no longer be a "monster" but that doesn't make him a hero either. In fact, he wasn't even the hero in his own reenactment of Loveless. Zack was the hero. Genesis realized he was the Prisoner of the story, who lost to the Hero.
Hell, Fuhito wanted to protect the Planet too.
Just because one wishes or says they're here to help the planet doesn't mean it's good for everyone else.
Just because he wants to help "protect the Planet" doesn't mean he's friendly or benevolent. His goals are ambiguous; he may no longer be a "monster" but that doesn't make him a hero either. In fact, he wasn't even the hero in his own reenactment of Loveless. Zack was the hero. Genesis realized he was the Prisoner of the story, who lost to the Hero.
Hell, Fuhito wanted to protect the Planet too.
Just because one wishes or says they're here to help the planet doesn't mean it's good for everyone else.
ForceStealer
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Been saying this for years
Lulcielid
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Episode INTERmission is 8.9GB. Pre-load up on June 8th.
Saven
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Uh oh! It has a smaller GB size than the demo. Cue the "OMG! IT'S GOING TO BE SHORTER THAN CHAPTER 1!!!!! FUQ NOMURA!" brigade that literally thought Chapter 1 was 1/7th of the entire game when that one leak came out that listed FFVIIR around 70GB in whole when the demo was around 10GB in size.
Roundhouse
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I think it would be interesting to see Genesis in more of a positive light this time around, personally, but I suppose it's fair to say that the jury is out on that until we get more info. What you say about Zack and Loveless is true, but that was CC-Gen...he will prove you all wrong and become the hero he was born to be!
Well, that just proves I understand absolutelly nothing of GB size. Because I allways thought that meant the size of the entire thing, and from what we have seen, it's obvious that Intermission has much more content than the demo had, so it GB size should be much bigger. But it isn't somehow... So yeah, I'm confused.
Tetsujin
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But here's the thing:
The demo's size is inflated because it also includes junk data and assets from the final game in its files.
Episode Intermission on the other hand is DLC and if there are any other assets from the main game that it needs, it can pull those from what is already installed from the main game. For example, there would be no need to include sector 7 assets or Cloud, Tifa etc. character models because they are already there. On top of that, new gen console file sizes have decreased in general since there is less need for asset duplication for faster load times (thanks to the SSD) and also better compression tech in general.