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I'm sure they retconned the heck out of it. But Nibelheim is not the only chapter where the writers of Before Crisis were less then infallible and perfect and made decisions in terms of depicting of events and charactisation that they might not hold to a decade and a half later.

Also, Tseng does debrief the player Turk at some point in the next 5 years, Last Order tells us.

Yes, at the end of the game. The six years of progressing disillusionment with Shinra that Before Crisis depicted didn't somehow happen to 10 people that had the same job as Reno and Rude but not at all to them. Those 10 people might have different reactions to how they ended up in the...

Please don't switch between single and plural from one sentence to the next. The Turks of Before Crisis were a group of a dozen people. The things that happened to their group that led them to leave Shinra happened to all of them, as group as a whole, not just the one you are playing on any...

Tseng, Rude and Reno are of a part of the Turks of Before Crisis. They are not some inheritely different kind of being. Like I said, the only thing that seperates Rude and Reno feom Tseng's other underlings at the time is what missions they happened to be on. Veldt's entire characterisations...

The Turks in Before Crisis aren't loyal to a fault. MOST of them abandoned Shinra Inc and Rufus, for that matter, altogether. It's a matter of time and place that Reno and Rude were with Tseng at the time instead of somewhere else or their lives would have been been like the Turks that were...

If they cannot disobey orders under threat of death and the death of their loved ones, them being Veldt, the other Turks and Elfe, then we are back to the idea that Shinra has people at their disposal that are better at the Turks' job then the Turks. The Turks are Shinra's personal hunt, murder...

I'm not saying Shinra has absolutely no resources to threaten them with but being Shinra's clandestine kidnappers and enforces is very much the Turks job, it is not someone else's job. If the Turks are only doing because they felt their lives and loved ones were being threatened, then Shinra has...

At the end of the Chapter 14, you zipline all the way to another Midgar.

Yeah, they assembled this elite crew of cuttthroats that'll torture, kidnap, murder anyone close to you if you go against them, that's why their employees know to stay in in line. Oh no, wait; That's the Turks. It doesn't really work when the Turks themselves are the ones that aren't willing to...

Stuff happened after the end of the world too though. From her line it's clear that she hadn't talked to Reno in a long time. She has however, been talking a lot with her new orphan child, whose parents Reno decided to murder, along with the rest of Sector 7. Smiling at his memory just makes it...

Definitely Cloud to me

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I'd be willing to try out, be warned my voice is like :(

Not being able to be bothered with trying to stop the reactor bombing and having no better way to deal with 5 hostiles then the obliterate a massive part of the city and then be saved from having to deal with the repair cost by blind dumb luck because the Ancient had come back into their custody...

TIE-BREAKER SCENARIO #1 - CLOUD (B) Seeing Cloud's reaction was very adorable TIE-BREAKER SCENARIO #2 - TIFA (B) How Tifa took sporty as being something she kinda already had, and then turned it around was very impressive TIE-BREAKER SCENARIO #3 - OTHER (B) Marlene's fear for losing the...

Aerith calling Marlene on the phone is a pretty substantial difference for me.

All the murder Scarlet did in Corel was already for no reason at all, not the guards, not Barret and Dyne, not the village they burn down, it was all a pointless display of Scarlet's cartoony evil. As for Heidegger, if the man was able to do his job under President Shinra's command we don't ever...

I agree with no to Cetra being Spiran or them using Mako Reactors or Al Bhed taking over the planet with dropship. I don't think the guy in the mask in that photo is suppose to be anyone other then Shinra from X-2. To say that they arrived before Jenova, means the connection is so distant and...

Because Nojima told us that Shinra from X-2 would go on to found the Shinra Cooperation. That event is quite obviously what that photo is in reference too. Now you can consider it all tongue and cheek and that's fine, but at that point you might as well say that in actuality there's an empty...