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It's a shame though, for an introduction scene, to miss something that important. And to add in its stead a reference to lovers which doesn't exist in the japanese version is... not that much of a good choice, in my opinion, especially because everything on that subject gets tremendously...

In the article you linked, the author writes that Nojima expressed concern in that specific scene. Why would he cave in when he's the one who knows the intent behind this scene ? Especially since it changes a lot of things, it changes Cloud's personality and the double meaning behind the reunion...

Mon Dieu je suis a la moitié de l'article, je viens de caler que l'anglais te rajoute du "lovers" pour les fleurs et juste je comprends pas la manœuvre, surtout que c'est considéré comme un win de la part des CAs. Edit: en fait non, c'était la dernière partie. I just don't get why localisation...

Which indeed is not an argument because basically, no relationship is the same, hence you can't compare. And even in this specific case, we have one relationship lived but cut short and one that was never really explored, that is more on the "what if" side. So really there is nothing to compare...

Ok, I realize I didn't shape my idea very well, and of course this is a specific case since we're dealing with grief as well as love. Also, I wasn't implying that Aerith loved Zack any less than she did when he was around. Merely that feelings don't stay the same, as we, people do change too...

Ah, ok then. Gotta admire the dedication !

I must say I don't really get the point :huh:. Like, is it some kind of trolling ? Weren't we supposed to have something for the EC anniversary ? If yes, then why the countdown to December ? No, I don't think it will be quite this simplistic, but there's still a chance we don't get to see...

I pretty much agree with this, in terms of intensity. Feelings are bound to change, evolve, whether you're in a relationship or not. Could go for the better or not. It's human nature. This though, I don't agree with. Because the way Aerith feels about Zack, even if not as intense as it used to...

Unrelated but I ran into a real life Aerith (and who, funnily enough, is a Tifa lover) who gave me some leftover flowers. Just wanted to share these pictures (with my dog's ear on the side, and my dirty shoe). There"s so many lilies I don't know what to do with it. Btw if any of you have an...

Oh I did watch the scene with french subtitles afterwards, also heard about the japanese version, in which she's supposed to straight up say yes. But in french, if I remember correctly, she's saying "disons que... Je ne peux pas le détester, ça c'est sur", which is VERY different from a firm...

I agree, which is why I didn't mention anything about Cloud's feelings, just Aerith's. It's not that I don't think they are all endgame but about the way the devs will commit to it. It could all be very explicit, depicted in a no questionable way (although I'm sure that some will always...

I'm one of those. I quite frankly felt like she was shafted for 2/3 of the game. I get what they were going for, portraying her as outgoing and living in the moment but... I feel like she was too Cloud-centric, and some of her moments (like on the boat with Gi Nattak), were... just not hitting...

I very much agree with that. ACC was not, for me, a good depiction of relationships, and I think it's pretty much because it comes in secondary in a movie that is about too many subjects at the same time (geostigma, Sephiroth and his remnants, grief, depression, love, regrets etc). It all feels...

You really think so ? Don't you think, like Tifa stated, that's it's a bit more complicated ? The way I see it (and of course, since it's only my point of view, it's completely debatable), Aerith is someone who thrives through relationships. No matter their nature, she lacked the interactions...

That's very nice, especially since my english is really not that good !

Agreed. This is also why I have absolutely no issue with confronting the way I see things with a different opinion. Worst case scenario is I won't have learned anything new. Getting angry or bothered because people don't agree is never going to be the way I do things. I didn't care for the song...

This is what most players get, yes. And I dare say only a minority sees it as any form of confirmation from Cloud (since there is none, and the song is about Aerith's feelings and that's it). Also the sadness of it because, well, she dies. Haha, this is what sent me out of my mind. I was...

Does it though ? Most players are not that invested in the song, they either liked it, loved it or they didn't. It only sets an expectation for hardcore CAs that see the game through a very specific lens. For the rest of us, it's just a song. We can debate around it, the meaning of it, sure...

You're right about nothing letting in on her way to process this. But this is what Sephiroth does at this point, he gets inside both of Tifa and Cloud's skin, get them to doubt, and it takes just one little hesitation from her to make his mind fall apart. So I'm not that sure about her knowing...

Also, on that, I don't quite agree. This moment is the one where Tifa doesn't know her stand, she very much doubt Cloud isn't some kind of clone, and that's what sent him to the edge. This less than 30 seconds of doubt from her was enough to let go. Even though she ends up not letting go of him...