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You and me both. Sorta. I understand it in the sense that it seems like that's what the story wants to convey. Whether or not it came across seems to differ from one person to another. To you and me, it didn't. For me, personally, while I see there were times Cloud does comfort Aerith, Aerith...

I'd say this is it. And as a bonus, it also gets Tifa out of the way. The real kicker is that instead of just keeping that to themselves as their headcanon, they're trying to convince the other person there that they're right. They even cited the Mandela effect for it.

You leave them alone for a bit and they go ahead and become Sephiroth themselves. Gotta say, what a clumsy attempt at gaslighting (intentional or not), though. I mean, fact checking that "misunderstanding" is very easy.

delurking for a moment I see it as Cloud and Aerith both having the younger sibling energy -- one wants to be indulged while the other pretends to be so above it all. No incarnation of Aerith ever struck me as the older-sister figure, cause as you said, she's very child-like.

And this is where we go back to making a case for their lack of media literacy. Imo, the hallmark of a well-written character is that there's more to them than meets the eye. FF7 isn't unique in that regard (not even in 1997). That or they do know, and they just refuse to acknowledge it, as...

Just to jump in here a bit, but what little exposure I have to yaoi (my sister is a hardcore fan) gave me the impression that Yaoi pairs aren't really two men. One of them is so feminine he might as well be a woman (and it's usually the uke). This isn't to say that men can't have feminine...

Dude, I know all of this. Don't put words in my mouth. But okay, it's not like you're wrong, so I'll leave this here. To be fair to you, wording it the way I did wasn't the best call either, so it's whatever. At the end of the day, I'll never deny CT is canon and that, despite all the odds...

As is true for everyone, I'm aware. I never said he didn't try, either. AC in particular just gives a rather bad depiction that he did. Like I said, Retrilogy did a good job so far selling him as a partner.

Stuff like this is why I hesitate to say that I ship CT. I acknowledge that the story supports it being canon, but goddamn, sometimes I feel my girl Tifa deserves more than Cloud. Edit to add: Retrilogy has so far given me a far better impression of Cloud as a partner.

It's certainly interesting to see the amount of hoops they jump through to make this work, that's for sure. It's at least less...hostile-sounding (like, it's not directly aimed at disproving CT) but it still doesn't explain why he said nothing when Aerith said she now knew where they stood...

This and an environmental message tangent near the end. Maybe it was obvious, but I sure as hell didn't expect that to come into play.

And I was just listening to the track most associated with Kana (Next to You) while writing a fic today. What a coincidence :mon: But as someone who had at least seen that anime, they do have similarities, yeah. There's one more possible similarity that will come up later x3

I won't xP But that won't stop me from judging them with extreme prejudice. That would be quite the change, because in OG, Aerith successfully prayed for Holy before she died. It was part of her tragedy -- her death wasn't necessary (at least in terms of summoning Holy). I just had a convo...

Are these people blind? xD Clouds are WHITE and water has no color! The sky is blue, though :desu: In all seriousness, RIP your brain cells. They're free join mine in rolling in their not-yet-grave because some of these theories are so off the wall that I can't even begin to parse them.

Oh, for real. I think I've said it paaaaaages ago, but the people I know who truly, 100% didn't care about the ships just never try interpreting the story beyond what we were shown on screen. The ones who were in my own circle didn't even ask me who I got for the GS date -- or just the GS date...

That's kinda funny, in the sense that in OG, Holy wasn't only blocked by Seph but also failed anyway and that's why the Planet used the lifestream itself to fight Meteor. If DoC had already been written by then, Omega might've been summoned first before Aerith prayed for the planet to reconsider...

That in the grand scheme of things, it felt a little forced. Why have this date? The Sleeping Forest dream in OG was fine, granted that's going off my recollections of that other game. I liked the Zack parts just cause it's Zack, but the date felt so out of place at this point. Aerith also...

More reasons that the movie should be rewritten, if it comes to down it. Gotta like that in the process, though, they admitted that CA's bond isn't romantic. Sure, it's more than friendship, but not romantic nonetheless, acc to them.

It's what got me into this mess xD My trainwreck syndrome eats really well from this, but at the same time, I can also feel it rebelling at the torture I put it through. This I will 100% agree with. I hated how limited we are with using dragon form, among other things. I just so happened to...

Hey! Dragon Quarter isn't that bad, I'll have you know! I ended it with a Dragon Ratio of 1/4 (I'll add 1 and 2 to my eternal backlog, though, lol) Oh boy, I can relate. I had a similar experience, with added insistence that since Cloud's feelings trumps all in FF7, he must've been in love with...