It's time for a Live Action Final Fantasy VII Movie

clowd

Pro Adventurer
I can see it being two parts, with part one ending at the temple of the ancients. Part One 3 hours long (First hour Midgar alone), Part Two 2.5 hours

This isn't like Dragon Ball Z, you can have good looking FF7 characters in live action.

I'd rather see it be a live action movie instead of TV show anime for a few reasons

With a live action film FF7 will get genuine mainstream recognition. It will give us a chance to see these characters and this world in a medium unlike anything they've been in before. And it will permanently cement the game and story's status in pop culture, alongside the MCU, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, The Matrix, etc
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
No, thank you.

I want to move past the OG. A live action movie would want Sephiroth and Aerith, and as such it'd be either the OG (too long) or ACC. So no. To me it's way due time that we leave the OG stoy behind us. Hopefully p3 will embark us post DoC where if they want to a new dev team can develop more new games and ideas for the Compilation. Maybe even a few years later with Denzel as the main character, and new companions.

It's time for us to move on from the OG. It's killing the fandom, to be stuck that way.
 

Lulcielid

Eyes of the Lord
AKA
Lulcy
Nah, FF7 already has too much focus. If we have to have a live action movie then adapt other FFs instead of FF7.
 

clowd

Pro Adventurer
No, thank you.

I want to move past the OG. A live action movie would want Sephiroth and Aerith, and as such it'd be either the OG (too long) or ACC. So no. To me it's way due time that we leave the OG stoy behind us. Hopefully p3 will embark us post DoC where if they want to a new dev team can develop more new games and ideas for the Compilation. Maybe even a few years later with Denzel as the main character, and new companions.

It's time for us to move on from the OG. It's killing the fandom, to be stuck that way.
It wouldn't really be about current fans of the OG. It would be about bringing FF7 to a mainstream audience and making it's appeal universal. Like what Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings Trilogy did for that story. There was millions and millions of people who didn't know what LOTR was until those movies but became fans afterward, myself included

Nah, FF7 already has too much focus. If we have to have a live action movie then adapt other FFs instead of FF7.

I think it has the best story/characters/set pieces combination of all the FF7s to make the best film. So it really shouldn't be a matter of what game hasn't got attention but which story would do best in live action
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
It wouldn't really be about current fans of the OG. It would be about bringing FF7 to a mainstream audience and making it's appeal universal. Like what Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings Trilogy did for that story. There was millions and millions of people who didn't know what LOTR was until those movies but became fans afterward, myself included
Do you realise how long the story is and how it would be butchered to be done? It would be a disaster in waiting. Look at AC, it was so bad SE had to make ACC and add a lot of time for what is already a simplified version of the OG's story.

So what are you willing to sacrifice? The external conflict, with Sephiroth and Aerith, or the internal conflict, with Cloud and Tifa?
 

clowd

Pro Adventurer
Jurassic Park the movie has like 20% of what's in the book. The book was better (books are almost always better). But the movie was still excellent and is my favorite film of all time. Sacrificing something doesn't mean it's going to be bad

If FF7 is going to truly go mainstream, it's story needs to be made easily edible in the form of a film people can just walk into a theater and watch in a few hours featuring live action actors.

I know a live action TV show on HBO or something would allow for more detail and everything to be explored - but we've kind of already had that with the remake. I don't feel/see the need for this story to be told again in great detail. It's already had that treatment, twice. In the original game and in the remake. A two part film directed and written by talented people passionate for the story
 

X-SOLDIER

Harbinger O Great Justice
AKA
X
So, like with most games, I don't think that the core of FFVII itself has a story that really lends itself into a film format.

The reasons that film adaptations of games & books end up being different is just because of the nature of how storytelling works for those two mediums. This is also why a lot more adaptations of books & games are shifting over to streaming where you have the time & bandwidth to be able to develop those sorts of narratives with the space that they require to actually be told, and also where the length of each episode can vary just like the length of a chapter of a book / game.

I wouldn't expect SE to make any sort of FFVII live-action Hollywood film unless the ROI & interconnection to a huge Western audience that Kojima makes on his upcoming Death Stranding film is just off-the-charts to the point that it would be crazy for them NOT to do it. Given the way that SE operates financially at the moment, I really don't expect that to happen unless what Kojima does just shifts the needle to a massive degree that's impossible to ignore – which I really just don't see happening. Even if that IS an overall success, I don't think that the exposure that it'll generate for the Death Stranding IP will be much different than just having Norman Reedus and others in it – like it already does.

To that point, I honestly think that the closest thing that you'd ever get would be something along the lines of FFXV: Kingsglaive where the story happening is something that's adjacent to the events of the game & there are big name actors in it doing VA, but everything's still created digitally – which really just puts you in the same territory as Advent Children but also narratively in what they've been exploring in Ever Crisis with The First SOLDIER. Those sorts of brand new narratives can naturally shape themselves around the constraints of the format of the storytelling of film without compromising anything that they would otherwise by being an adaptation of a larger story that was designed for a different medium (which'll be what's interesting to see in how Death Stranding is doing as its approach strategically for its film release and what exactly the film decides to focus on).

If anything, I think that when it comes to FFVII and its setting, Ever Crisis generally opens up the ways in which side-stories might be told with things that interconnect into the FFVII world itself where SOMETHING in live-action isn't out of the question, but like @Eerie mentioned, I think that the biggest potential that the Remake Project has opened up overall is that Part 3 could deliver things into a post-DoC setting where it's FAR more possible to set up for others to tell other stories in that world as a setting that don't bump into things from the game itself too egregiously. I still think that things like when the Cetra first fought against Jenova, as well as the post-Omega conflict world have decent potential for interesting stories, games, novels, films, animations, etc. to be told about them.

However, if you REALLY want SE to go that route – be careful what you wish for on that monkey's paw... because there is already a live-action FFVII Compilation character whose story is literally set to kick off the post-DoC world :awesomonster:



TBH: I personally have zero problems with this but I'm not sure that everyone would be on board. Gackt is in his early 50s now and he's still touring, so I figure that the clock for that to ever happen is a fairly limited window one way or another. However, Gackt's history as Genesis in the original Compilation titles as well as in Crisis Core Reunion bring us to a couple other important factors to consider about creating something in live action.

One of your main motivators around this is the impact that live actions brings in pulling in mainstream audience, but I'd argue that what you're actually looking for is something from Hollywood, since despite Gackt being live action and having ENORMOUS star potential & name recognition when it comes to the core Japanese audience – that would do literally nothing insofar as having a "mainstream impact" anywhere outside of that market. Live action film that comes out of Japan generally needs to have the reach of something like Godzilla Minus One to really register on the map at ALL in the way that you're talking about, and even then the overall reach is still not that significant beyond the already notable venn diagram of overlap between people who are fans of both sci-fi/fantasy and video games... – hence bringing everything back to whatever the outcome of Death Stranding venture looks like when that potentially drops in something like 2027 assuming that all goes smoothly.

However, even beyond that – the biggest complication that anything live action presents is for character dubbing. Not only was Gackt's dub one that has shifted English VAs and whose live action appearance was... rather polarizing to put it mildly – one of the biggest technological pushes that was made during the early development of Remake is what allowed them to dynamically adjust each character's speech & facial expressions to automatically match to the VA's performance in ANY of the languages that are available for the game, such that the characters' mouths & expressions BOTH match that of the spoken language.


This is MASSIVE when it comes to the emotional moments connecting with a more broad international audience, especially when you're looking at any "mainstream" impact (especially because the core mainstream Americans are known for being allergic to subtitles). On top of that technological hurdle in live action being something that they don't need to deal with by keeping it in the realm of digital realism that the Remake Project focused on for its overall stylization, there's also already a massive marketing investment into the characters current English voice actors who were brought on for Remake. It's pretty much impossible to attempt to focus a film on a story around the original game without undercutting a huge effort just to gain a foothold with a primarily Western audience that doesn't just create a disconnect to the existing fanbase, but especially since a big Western film won't necessarily translate to a wider impact within the core JP audience in a way that would make that financially incentivized for a company like SE to attempt as an undertaking.

Essentially, as much of a deeply internationally loved story as FFVII is, at it's core it's still very much part of a company where a vast majority of the ancillary material is still primarily focused on the JP audience (ex: despite everything else I've mentioned thus far, Ever Crisis has no options for English dialogue). I don't think that there's any way that Final Fantasy VII branches out into making a colossal financial risk of releasing a live-action adaptation, but ESPECIALLY since the success of FFVII and the gap in understanding the difference to game & film development is LITERALLY what lead to the fumble with FF: The Spirits Within, which everyone close to that team knows all too well.

Basically there's almost no way you'd ever get an official live-action film adaptation of FFVII in any way that I can think of. If you get anything live-action that's connected to FFVII – it's almost certainly going to be a JP-audience-centric spinoff content that is primarily involving Gackt and which takes place after the Remake Project wraps up the main story with Part 3, and opens up looking at whatever possibilities that world has to offer in the wake of that conclusion.




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